I have a scotts steering damper on my yam R6 do they help and what for?
Posted by admin | Under Motorcycle Aftermarket Friday Oct 31, 2008I bought motorcycle used that came with a scotts steering damper that somebody bought aftermarket and installed are they really needed will i notice a difference and when and how -what is popular setting as i dont know where to set it or anything…
they're good man, lots of bikes are coming from the factory with them now. patrick is wrong saying that if it didn't come from the factory with one, you don't need one. Does that also mean that older cars that didn't come with airbgs won't be better with aftermarket airbags installed? of course not. a steering damper is a good thing to have no matter what. If you put it on it's lightest setting you won't even notice it's there. btw, the lower the number the lighter the setting on yours. There is both low speed nd high speed circuit, so you cn turn down the low speed circuit so it doesn't hve n effect when you're just turning slow in a parking lot or u turn or whatever, but if it starts to shake fast it'll work. I would set the highspeed circuit to 5 or 6 and the low speed to 3 or 4.
headshake can turn into a tankslapper if not checked, therefore in effect, dampers do prevent tankslppers. tankslappers and headshake are 2 different things, but they are 2 different degrees of the same thing; rapid steering oscilation
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The Scotts Steering Damper is a good tool. It is used to stabilize the front end of the bike.
Generally they are used by racers to prevent speed wobbles caused during hard acceleration making the front get light.
These are known as tank slappers. The handlebars uncontrollably move left to right and can become dangerous.
I recommend you keep it. As you get better and faster you will be glad you have it.
As for setting they depend on what you are doing. On the track you want it tighter on the street looser. Technically it is up to you and what you like. For street riding find a setting that you can use most of the time. When you get to the twisties tighten it down some.
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Yes they help, especially on an R6 depending on the year. You'll be glad it's there when you start getting aggressive with the throttle. Tank slappers are no fun.
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They are there to keep the bars from turning suddenly while in a turn.
A motorcycle MUST lean to turn. A rider countersteers to initiate the lean, and then keeps the bike steady while leaned over to trace an arc through the corner.
The suspension works best when the bike is upright, and any bumps encountered when leaned over rely less on the suspension and more on chassis flex.
If being leaned over at speed begins to lock out the suspension, and your front wheel hits a bump, it could suddenly turn the front wheel in the wrong direction, causing you to lean farther than you have available traction for, and you crash.
A steering damper keeps the front wheel from "flopping" over bumps while leaned over, and keeps fast riders in control. If you're new to riding, you won't notice a difference whether it's there or not.
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chances are if you are not doing much riding at the track then you will not notice too much difference if you remove the steering damper.
I think it is very important to point out that there is a significant difference between a little head shake and a full on tankslapper.
Most steering dampers are not fitted to prevent tankslappers, (with the TL 1000 series of bikes being a notable exception) they are used to quell head shake.
A tank slapper occurs when the bars thrash violently, and I'm not exaggerating here, from steering lock to steering lock at high speed. This is very dangerous and could cause a serious crash. I have crashed because of a tabkslapper, if you have any doubt as to if you have ever experienced one, chances are that you haven't.
You will also get some head shake under throttle when the front tire goes light, but steering dampers are not specifically designed to stop this either (although they of course do).
The head shake that steering dampers are fitted for are much less violent. Because modern sportbikes have radical steering geometry so they turn quicker. they tend to waggle their bars when being ridden at the upper levels of their performance envelope. In general this waggle is most often experienced on a modern bike at the track. This is what steering dampers are designed for.
A steering damper will make slow speed steering require greater effort (even if it is progressive). If you bike was not fitted with a stock steering damper then it does not "need" a steering damper.
If you want to take it off, you may find that your bike's slow speed handling is lighter. If you ride hard enough to need a damper…good work, and put it back on.
That said, a Scott damper is a nice piece of kit.
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16 years riding and wrenching, street and track
they're good man, lots of bikes are coming from the factory with them now. patrick is wrong saying that if it didn't come from the factory with one, you don't need one. Does that also mean that older cars that didn't come with airbgs won't be better with aftermarket airbags installed? of course not. a steering damper is a good thing to have no matter what. If you put it on it's lightest setting you won't even notice it's there. btw, the lower the number the lighter the setting on yours. There is both low speed nd high speed circuit, so you cn turn down the low speed circuit so it doesn't hve n effect when you're just turning slow in a parking lot or u turn or whatever, but if it starts to shake fast it'll work. I would set the highspeed circuit to 5 or 6 and the low speed to 3 or 4.
headshake can turn into a tankslapper if not checked, therefore in effect, dampers do prevent tankslppers. tankslappers and headshake are 2 different things, but they are 2 different degrees of the same thing; rapid steering oscilation
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